Model # 256184 Store SKU # 1000123364. Zinsser Cover Stain is an interior / exterior primer, sealer, stain sealer and bond coat that dries for recoat in only two hours. Developed in 1985, Cover-Stain is the only interior/exterior primer, sealer, stain sealer and bond coat that dries for recoat in only one hour. Can you paint over Zinsser? I was able to take down the outer layer of paper, but the glue backing is left. over clean, well prepped, non-problem surfaces. ... Zinsser Cover Stain® makes light work of unwanted graffiti - it primes and seals the affected substrate in … I stained my kitchen cabinets several years ago and used Minwax water based polyurethane as the finish coat. (old Victorian house - not new walls) with Matt Emulsion. Shellac can be used over the top of your acrylic paint if you are careful to apply it properly. Zinsser Cover-Stain is great for new construction and remodeling work. I would stick with the 123 or BM's Fresh Start, I never liked cover stain for anything except over residual wall paper paste, even then I would go with any other oil based primer,cover stain just plain stinks,as in smells bad, and as you said never applied easily.123 or fs will go over old oil or anything else and stick with minimal sanding. In all honesty, oil is getting to the point that it all sucks. They are all so high solids and low solvent that they drag and don't level at all like they use to. Just make sure you let it fully cure for a couple of days before painting over it. No need for a brush, just spray the water stain, wait until dry and apply a second coat. I will let you know how it goes! Oil Based White Interior/Exterior Primer and Sealer sticks to any surface without sanding and can be used under and over oil and latex topcoats. Put a little thinner in the paint. I’ve already primed a new wooden door with Cover Stain. I wrongly used Layland water based satin for wood and metal to cover some water stain on my ceiling, which is painted with... © 2008-2020 MyBuilder Limited This primer sealer spray features a high-hiding formula to help block and seal water and smoke stains. Yes, you can. There’s a reason Rust-Oleum® Zinsser® Bulls Eye 1-2-3® Water-Base Primer is our most popular primer. No feedback. sanded quickly with 200 grit sand paper, no primer. Milton Keynes • Member since 1 Nov 2016 • :yes: I am at a loss here. Zinsser also manufacture a spray paint to cover stains, Zinsser Primer Stain Killer Aerosol, perfect for situations where you have a small patch or patches of water stains. 9 times out of 10 I will thin oil based primer. From the Manufacturer. Recently painted my bedroom. feedback, Zinsser. We had my daughter’s room freshly plastered recently. What a fiasco this will be. I even had a couple door frames done side-by-side with Coverstain vs. 123 and you could tell the 123 didn't penetrate as well. Cover-Stain is also available as an aerosol for spot work and priming small objects. I am having the same issues with Zinsser Cover Stain. Product description:Paint. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I'm hearing a lot from a couple paint companies we deal with about the introduction of an extremely fine alkyd resin suspended in a water based system. Recoat in only two hours. sanded as #2, one coat of Zinsser 123 water based primer. Zinsser Cover Stain Water-Base Primer. I found Zinsser Cover Stain Primer, which is alleged to adhere to all finishes. This is what I want to use as a primer over the water based polyurethane. May be used under any solvent-based or water-based topcoat. And the better more reccomended product is zinsser b.i.n flashes in 45 mins, best for stain hold out and in your case can be purchased in aerosol form, Plymouth • Member since 20 Jul 2017 • I stained my kitchen cabinets several years ago and used Minwax water based polyurethane as the finish coat. When you start doing a lot of repaints where you know they used latex primer on the previous paint job, you will see what people are talking about. It is a commonly held belief that oil-based paints don’t mix well with other types of paints; however, at the same time, it is also said that it is perfectly okay to use latex paint over an oil-based primer. This is what I want to use as a primer over the water based polyurethane. Fortunately, with the proper approach, you can successfully use water-based paint over oil-based paint. ... Interest-Based Ads I have only sprayed it on. MIXING Mix thoroughly to ensure any settled pigment is re-dispersed. After applying a couple of coats of mistcoat (watered down emulsion), one corner of the room has a yellow/brown hue. This premium, whole-house primer-sealer provides outstanding performance indoors and out, with low odor, great flow and leveling and a flexible, acrylic formula. Coverstain has it's uses. Yes but the zinsser cover stain is an oil based version that requires time to dry. Registered in England No. I was able to take down the outer layer of paper, but the glue backing is left. sanded as #2, one coat of Zinsser BIN shellac based primer. sanded as #2, one coat of Zinsser Cover Stain oil based primer. One stellar offering from Zinsser is their Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Interior/Exterior Water-Based Primer. The slower drying ones will tend to level better. It can stick to most interior and exterior surfaces and can be easily sanded. From Kilz, you have the Kilz Premium High-Hide Stain-Blocking Interior/Exterior Primer, which is also water-based. Any oil or latex paint can be applied over it. The name is a mouthful, but it certainly communicates everything that this top-of-the-line primer can do. Apply dulux stain block , available in spay can . I want to make sure this doesn’t come through when we apply the colour top-coat, so was thinking of covering just that corner in Zinsser cover stain primer sealer. The catch to those is that you have to wait an eternity before they are hard enough to do any sanding if you need to as they will just gum up. Use oil-based primer between the original surface and an oil-based top coat, or if you prefer to switch to a water-based paint for the top coat, be sure to use … Can You Paint over Stain Using Acrylic Paint? Cookies This whole-house primer-sealer is a favourite with professionals. If you’ve ever looked through the Zinsser range you’ll see that they have a lot of different Zinssser primers to choose from. 28 I flows like the old oils and gets you most of the same benefits of the traditional oils. 05272398. Sitemap I think you should try a different brand. Zinsser's primers (BIN, 123 and Cover Stain) all say in their technical docs that they can be painted over with any water-based or solvent-based topcoat. A regular oil undercoater would work much better. Why is it about Zinsser Cover Stain oil base primer that sucks so much? Since the adhesive on the back of the wallpaper is water-based, you should use an oil-based primer like Zinsser Cover Stain or Kilz Original to seal the wall before you begin with your water-based paint. I found Zinsser Cover Stain Primer, which is alleged to adhere to all finishes. I will let you … But they never actually use the word “undercoat”; they only describe themselves as primers. When you visit the Store, be certain to have your Paint Associate tint … Great for use on all interior surfaces & spot priming on exterior surfaces. Does anyone have an oi/alkyd base primer they can recommend that will do the job AND also level out? Ideal for interior and exterior applications. BIN is not a monster you want to tackle. It cleans up mostly with water, is low VOC, and dries to recoat in about 15 minutes. We use a lot of cedar where I am and the tannins will bleed through the FS as will knots and any other contaminates on the wood. The only reason I recommend oil is that I have seen latex primers fail, and fail miserably on bare wood. Is there an oil primer for this situation that levels better than Cover Stain? However, doing so will not have the same effect as applying stain and then later painting over the deck wood. Recoat in only two hours. Bulls-Eye® 1-2-3 is ideal for priming fibreglass. Product Name: Zinsser Cover Stain. Terms and conditions Can be confusing this question, is it Oil base or waterbase varnish you are wanting to cover, also is it a clear or coloured finish. The house is 1960’s and we stripped wallpaper as we wanted to just paint walls. Brian discusses the Zinsser Cover Stain, an oil based stain from Rust-Oleum that can be applied on almost any surface. It is formulated to seal, prime and block out stains on previously painted or new work. I am planning on using Zinsser oil based Cover Stain Primer to completely coat it. Paint adheres well over water-based stain, so after completing the prep steps outlined above, apply a water-based latex primer with a brush or a roller… Cover Stain® An all-purpose solvent-based, stain-killing, primer-sealer. Thanks! Privacy notice I still have a ton of baseboard and a dozen doors that need to be primed overtop of older paint...and I think they are going to have to get Cover Stain. The condition of the walls is good (as a number... Can anyone shed some light on this as I am worrying slightly.. It sticks to everything and you can paint over it with latex paint. Had living room and dining room decorated after being plastered.... Hi there, It has worn off over the years and I want to paint the cabinets now. Paints & Supplies \ Zinsser Cover Stain Water-Base Primer Product Details Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Pinterest Share on Houzz Share this with your friends Share with email Print page. After the painting primers dried, we painted all the pieces using latex paint. Zinsser AllCoat Exterior Satin (Water Based) is a long lasting all surface paint offering up to 15 years performance, and is available in 350+ RAL and BS colours. Zinsser Cover Stain 1 Gal. Most of the time, an oil-based paint is preferred, but you can also use a water-based paint or even spray paint. We had my daughter’s room freshly plastered recently. Up to 9.8m2 coverage per litre on most surfaces. http://www.paintingwallpaperinghagerstown.com/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Yes you can paint over that - just make sure it is properly dry. Most paints and pimers will gell up and get tacky after sitting still for too long. It features an oil-based formula that seals stains from water, smoke, fire, nicotine and tannin bleed. Get ultimate hiding power indoors and out with Zinsser® Cover Stain® Oil-Base Primer. A latex primer as well as paint is best for covering a water-based stain. Up to 9.8m2 coverage per litre on most surfaces. A Quick Guide to Zinsser Primers. It's for extremely aggressive stains, like smoke damage. Zinsser’s primers (BIN, 123 and Cover Stain) all say in their technical docs that they can be painted over with any water-based or solvent-based topcoat. NEW. Any fast drying product should not be used for brush applications on bare wood, as the product has no time to level. May be used under any solvent-based or water-based topcoat. I would stick with the 123 or BM's Fresh Start, I never liked cover stain for anything except over residual wall paper paste, even then I would go with any other oil based primer,cover stain just plain stinks,as in smells bad, and as you said never applied easily.123 or fs will go over old oil or anything else and stick with minimal sanding. Paint cracks that have loosened the paint around it. No feedback. Tonypandy • Member since 24 Jul 2017 • Oh well, seems there's no easy solution (except for going with the Zinsser 123, but I'd like to stick with oil). I would stick with the 123 or BM's Fresh Start, I never liked cover stain for anything except over residual wall paper paste, even then I would go with any other oil based primer,cover stain just plain stinks,as in smells bad, and as you said never applied easily.123 or fs will go over old oil or anything else and stick with minimal sanding. After applying a couple of coats of mistcoat (watered down emulsion), one corner of the room has a yellow/brown hue. May be used under any solvent-based or water-based topcoat. I have tried the FS as a primer and it is O.K. It's a primer and sealer in one and blocks stains permanently. I've tried mineral spirits, Penetrol, and Naptha. B-I-N®, developed in 1946, is the original shellac-based white-pigmented primer-sealer stain-killer. Then texturing, and then using an oil based paint. Latex Primer: Good for Drywall, that's about it. Zinsser bulls Eye 1-2-3 1 gal. Just ditch the cover stain and get a gallon of this, you have gone through enough head aches already. MIXING Mix thoroughly to ensure any settled pigment is re-dispersed. Click to see full answer Keeping this in view, can you paint emulsion over Zinsser BIN? I think if you try a little thinner in the Cover Stain primer you will see a world of difference in how it spreads and lays down. Also make sure the store throws it on the shaker before you walk out. Now I am working on the entry way. This premium, whole-house primer-sealer provides outstanding performance indoors and out, with low odor, great flow and leveling and a flexible, acrylic formula. Come join the discussion about tools, projects, builds, styles, scales, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Also if you are doing two coats over it make sure you also leave a good amount of drying time between. Paint over water stained interior walls and ceilings with B-I-N®. To find out how easy it can be watch our video below our follow these step by step instructions! DO NOT THIN. Ideal for interior and exterior applications. Zinsser Cover-Stain is great for new construction and remodeling work. Recoat in only two hours. It stinks, is thin and runny, and a mess to apply evenly. I am planning on using Zinsser oil based Cover Stain Primer to completely coat it. It prevents the growth of mold, mildew and other fungal organisms on the paint film and is for use on non-porous interior and exterior surfaces. Kilz also offers an Origi… It's primarily for blocking certain types of stains that a water based can't block. No need for a brush, just spray the water stain, wait until dry and apply a second coat. First, let’s clarify which products we’re comparing. And will the water-based colour emulsion we have go on ok over the top? Cover Stain® Oil-Based Primer is not intended for application to floors, decks, roof surfaces or any surface subject to immersion or prolonged contact with water. Do not box or intermix Cover Stain Oil-Based Primer with other oil-base or water-base products. It doesn't cover in difficult bleed through places as well as the Kilz did, and I hoped the Zinsser would. You can always ad more if needed. You can definitely Zinsser over latex - just did it last week. Now I am working on the entry way. Zinsser's Wallpaper-Cover Up provides the smart way to paint over wallpaper. The stuff just won't lay down worth a darn. The idea is good, but, make sure you don't have a water leak and the plaster is dry before you apply the Zinser, and when the Zinser is dry do a touch-up before the final coat, and everything would be fine Can be used under any oil- or water-based topcoat. Can I paint emulsion matt over water based satinwood. I am not sure and not really sure anyone could say for sure but I would rather have it directly on the wood. It actually blocked tannin bleed, at least for the first couple months it's been on. Zinsser Mold Killing Primer is a water-based EPA Zinsser Mold Killing Primer is a water-based EPA registered fungicidal protective coating that can be used to paint over and kill all existing mold, mildew, moss, fungi, odor causing bacteria and any other fungal organisms. May be used under any solvent- Zinsser Cover Stain is an interior / exterior primer, sealer, stain sealer and bond coat that dries for recoat in only two hours. Good luck! Zinsser 123 water based primer, Zinsser Cover Stain oil based primer, and Zinsser BIN shellac based primer. It sprays like a dream with little effort and covers great! I have used Bullseye many times over varnish without detriment, in old brochures it used to say it was suitable to use over varnish but the later brochures say not, perhaps the base products have changed to comply with VOC … You can use one coat to seal the wood. Both Kilz and Zinsser offer a variety of options. Maybe I can spray the doors. DO NOT THIN. A waterbased primer will dry slower but will raise the grain. Ahead, you’ll find pointers for using whatever paint products you like over oil-based paint. The good news is that you can apply several different types of finishes over top of the acrylic paint to make it more durable and add a sheen. I really want to like this product, but can't. It's great for interior and exterior surfaces. Is this a good idea? I try and avoid brushes as much as possible. It's a niche product that you use in specific situations. Latex will sit and Zinsser will work its way in more. There’s a reason Rust-Oleum® Zinsser® Bulls Eye 1-2-3® Water-Base Primer is our most popular primer. I have a painter test a can of it. 0000004936 00000 n 0000002520 00000 n Ideal for interior / exterior use. Cover Stain® Oil-Based Primer is not intended for application to floors, decks, roof surfaces or any surface subject to immersion or prolonged contact with water. I hit the Cover Stain again (I have a gallon to play with). UK VAT Registered: 850 4121 63. We decided to use the same brand for clear comparisons. Up to 9.8m2 coverage per litre on most surfaces. Interestingly, though, on the other hand, you can’t use oil-based paints over latex paint.. For raw wood, it isn't the best product. I plan on painting the drywall with latex and the shelves with SW Pro Classic. Its zinsser. Zinsser also manufacture a spray paint to cover stains, Zinsser Primer Stain Killer Aerosol, perfect for situations where you have a small patch or patches of water stains. Use it to block stains, hide dark colours, prevent tannin bleed and penetrate and seal exterior wood. Painting older plaster with patches where paint won’t stick! Ideal for interior and exterior applications. They all held up MUCH better than the first two in the scratch tests. Professional painters use Cover-Stain for it wonderful application properties and versatility of use. Do not box or intermix Cover Stain Oil-Based Primer with other oil-base or water-base products. I planned on priming with Zinsser Cover Stain. JavaScript is disabled. Comparison of water based vs shellac vs oil based paint primer. All of them have their own uses, and knowing the best one to use in your situation will mean that you not only get the best results, but you also get results that will last longer. A forum community dedicated to Do it yourself-ers and home improvement enthusiasts. Time will tell the real story there though. Outstanding low VOC and low odor formula is designed to resist blistering, peeling and mold and mildew growth. This is because deck stain (which is typically made to tolerate all-seasons outdoor conditions) is designed to absorb into the wood upon which it is applied. Yes. Now will the Zinsser after latex not cover up the smell as much. It has worn off over the years and I want to paint the cabinets now. Question I have is I also have some fresh drywall and bare wood shelves that needs priming. jobs, Then texturing, and then using an oil based paint. 100% positive Helping You to Do It Yourself! However, you need to sand the wood down first using a 150-grit piece of sandpaper. Use just a little bit. water based white primer and sealer provide excellent adhesion to glossy surfaces without sanding. BE123 seems to slow the drying process a little and you will find the paint dragging if you try and second coat to soon. 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